Lost songs from Rock Band Network artists

progrocker
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Lost songs from Rock Band Network artists Feb 21, 2018 15:26:11 GMT

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Post by progrocker on Feb 21, 2018 15:26:11 GMT

Hello, I'm wondering if you could help me find more info on two artists that were featured on the Rock Band Network because I have not been able to find info on them.

The first one is Full-Source: an electronic artist (band?) that sounds... peculiar? weird? I don't know how to describe it. It's not for everyone but I kinda like it. I found a MySpace page with a list of songs but that's all. I think an Harmonix employee may be part of the band/be the artist since the songs where charted by an Harmonix employee (HMXEnosity)

Songs

Eyes Wide (possibly lost)
End Quote (partially found)
Up Stem (Down Stem) (possibly lost)
It's Not You, It's Everyone (partially found)
Red Sky at Morn (partially found)
Sun Spots (possibly lost)
No More Moon (possibly lost)
Into the Crowd (possibly lost)
Full of Owls (possibly lost)
Prior to (Now) (possibly lost)

The other one is Zack Wilson, He is apparently a musician from Nashville that also got some songs in the Rock Band Network's early days (March 2010 to be exact). The only thing I know is he has an album called Wilson Schmilson and that's where his songs Ox, Moonshine Cellar, Another California Song and Rearview Mirror come from. The only other thing I know is that those songs were charted by an user called TheFuture15.

I hope I'm being helpful.

EDIT: If they are really lost please move this to the Lost Media section.

Last Edit: Feb 24, 2018 1:56:37 GMT by progrocker

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senshisun Lost Media Enthusiast Posts: 671	Lost songs from Rock Band Network artists Feb 23, 2018 4:01:34 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by senshisun on Feb 23, 2018 4:01:34 GMT Looks like someone called "Team Aftermath" has some Full-Source footage. www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1Mx2cZU2fA Weirdly, I can't find anything else about them. The Rock Band Wiki doesn't have any information on them.
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Lost songs from Rock Band Network artists Feb 23, 2018 5:28:33 GMT

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Post by progrocker on Feb 23, 2018 5:28:33 GMT

Feb 23, 2018 4:01:34 GMT senshisun said:

Looks like someone called "Team Aftermath" has some Full-Source footage. www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1Mx2cZU2fA

Weirdly, I can't find anything else about them. The Rock Band Wiki doesn't have any information on them.

Guess I wasn't clear about what I was looking for. I was asking for the studio/no Rock Band noises version of those songs.

And like you said, Team Aftermath FC'd Red Sky at Morn and It's Not You, It's Everyone. Somebody else (can't remember) FC'd End-Quote playing drums. Aside from these three songs, no other Full-Source song appears to be on the internet aside from the Myspace listing.

About Zack Wilson's songs: The ones I mentioned are apparently the only ones online thanks to a Rock Band Network preview channel on YouTube. Doesn't help that no matter how I try to search for his songs, his name is apparently so common that everything else appears instead. Not even mentioning the album helped. I don't even know how many tracks that album has which is a problem and since he was described as a "Nashville mainstay" since the 90's I don't think "Wilson Schmilson" is the only lost album of his. The only lead I had was an indie song store that was mentioned on the Rock Band forums that apparently got absorbed by a bigger shop. I'll look for the post later.

I hope this doesn't turn into another "All Lights ****ed Up on the Hairy Amp Drooling"

EDIT: Is there a way to change a thread's title?

Last Edit: Feb 23, 2018 5:43:27 GMT by progrocker

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senshisun Lost Media Enthusiast Posts: 671	Lost songs from Rock Band Network artists Feb 24, 2018 1:35:19 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by senshisun on Feb 24, 2018 1:35:19 GMT Yes, go to "edit" on the first post. I figured Rock Band would put copyright information for all of their songs someplace. They all have to be licenced. If we could find that information, we could find the bands.
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Lost songs from Rock Band Network artists Feb 24, 2018 2:33:23 GMT

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Post by progrocker on Feb 24, 2018 2:33:23 GMT

UPDATE: I found out about four other Zack Wilson songs!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSR2818jXOU (Free Myself, only 25 seconds)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDbNjaXmWDA (Tell 'Em All, complete)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPVk9OTIM_c (Piece of Chocolate, only 1 minute).
www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfQ5612_Wko (It's Beautiful, around 30 seconds).

The every single one got rejected from RBN apparently since I don't recall seeing them on DLCQuickplay or the Wikipedia list of Rock Band Network songs (I don't know if the first was even charted or not). Too bad they aren't complete.

Also, he apparently worked with a Peter Cummings that may be the person that charted the songs. Here's his channel (may be abandoned www.youtube.com/user/iantcummings/videos).

Now if only the Full-Source search could get anywhere...

EDIT: And it did! Kinda. forum.docsrockbandmods.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=1434&start=75 They were mentioned here. The HMXEnosity guy is part of the band. Sadly, he is inactive from the Rock Band forums since 2010 *sigh*

EDIT 2: Saw a post were he mentioned his band forums.harmonixmusic.com/discussion/44362/4-20-hmx-band-full-source-tt-the-bears. Too bad the only site he mentioned was myspace.

EDIT 3: From what he wrote on the Harmonix forums he was a tester for a game called Phase. From what MobyGames say here: www.mobygames.com/game/ipod-classic/phase/credits we can see that there are only two possibilities on who HMXEnosity is: Jeremy Bridge or Tim Dwyer. Both have LinkedIn profiles but I can't see what's on Tim's because I don't have an account. I think I'm almost close to find those songs.

Last Edit: Feb 24, 2018 3:20:10 GMT by progrocker

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senshisun
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Lost songs from Rock Band Network artists Feb 26, 2018 1:30:57 GMT

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Post by senshisun on Feb 26, 2018 1:30:57 GMT

Feb 24, 2018 2:33:23 GMT progrocker said:

UPDATE: I found out about four other Zack Wilson songs!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSR2818jXOU (Free Myself, only 25 seconds)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDbNjaXmWDA (Tell 'Em All, complete)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPVk9OTIM_c (Piece of Chocolate, only 1 minute).
www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfQ5612_Wko (It's Beautiful, around 30 seconds).

The every single one got rejected from RBN apparently since I don't recall seeing them on DLCQuickplay or the Wikipedia list of Rock Band Network songs (I don't know if the first was even charted or not). Too bad they aren't complete.

Also, he apparently worked with a Peter Cummings that may be the person that charted the songs. Here's his channel (may be abandoned www.youtube.com/user/iantcummings/videos).

Now if only the Full-Source search could get anywhere...

EDIT: And it did! Kinda. forum.docsrockbandmods.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=1434&start=75 They were mentioned here. The HMXEnosity guy is part of the band. Sadly, he is inactive from the Rock Band forums since 2010 *sigh*

EDIT 2: Saw a post were he mentioned his band forums.harmonixmusic.com/discussion/44362/4-20-hmx-band-full-source-tt-the-bears. Too bad the only site he mentioned was myspace.

EDIT 3: From what he wrote on the Harmonix forums he was a tester for a game called Phase. From what MobyGames say here: www.mobygames.com/game/ipod-classic/phase/credits we can see that there are only two possibilities on who HMXEnosity is: Jeremy Bridge or Tim Dwyer. Both have LinkedIn profiles but I can't see what's on Tim's because I don't have an account. I think I'm almost close to find those songs.

Full Source

The FullSource MySpace page has a list of songs and albums. The song player doesn't appear to work anymore, but all the songs listed are there.

I found a Jeremy Bridge who still works at Harmonix and a Tim Dwyer who worked at Harmonix as a moderator in 2009 for 5 months. LinkedIn is not a good contact point, unfortunately. Jeremy Bridge doesn't have anything besides the Harmonix information on his LinkedIn.

Removing HMX from the HMXEnosity handle leads to a flickr account with a link to www.timdwyer.net. HMXEnosity must be Dwyer. The site is down now, but I found his contact information. Would you like to e-mail him?

Zack Wilson

The Youtube account appears to belong to Ian T. Cummings. The last video he posted was for a game called Letter by Letter, made by now-defunct Row Sham Bow. This video, the previously mentioned Letter by Letter video, and Row Sham Bow's old website indicate he may have worked at Row Sham Bow as a creative director. He also worked at EA in 2010, and the previews were of a developer build. He has an active twitter account. He might be related to Pete Cummings.

Last Edit: Feb 26, 2018 2:10:44 GMT by senshisun

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Lost songs from Rock Band Network artists Feb 27, 2018 10:28:02 GMT

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Post by progrocker on Feb 27, 2018 10:28:02 GMT

Is there a way to download the Full-Source discography from MySpace? I tried everything but I get an error saying something along the lines of "there's no music there". Also, I can't find a "buy music" button (please correct me if I'm wrong). At least I finally know the name of the artist and can talk to him, hopefully.

Also, maybe I should create a Twitter account to see if I can talk to Ian to see where can I get Zack's discography.

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Lost songs from Rock Band Network artists Feb 27, 2018 20:03:05 GMT

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Post by senshisun on Feb 27, 2018 20:03:05 GMT

Feb 27, 2018 10:28:02 GMT progrocker said:

Is there a way to download the Full-Source discography from MySpace? I tried everything but I get an error saying something along the lines of "there's no music there". Also, I can't find a "buy music" button (please correct me if I'm wrong). At least I finally know the name of the artist and can talk to him, hopefully.

Also, maybe I should create a Twitter account to see if I can talk to Ian to see where can I get Zack's discography.

I think the actual music files might have been removed since the account hasn't been accessed in a long time. They can't be played, so they might not be there. I'll PM you Dwayer's contact info.

I have a Twitter account, so I could ask Ian.

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Post by progrocker on Feb 21, 2018 15:26:11 GMT

Post by senshisun on Feb 23, 2018 4:01:34 GMT

Post by progrocker on Feb 23, 2018 5:28:33 GMT

Post by senshisun on Feb 24, 2018 1:35:19 GMT

Post by progrocker on Feb 24, 2018 2:33:23 GMT

Post by senshisun on Feb 26, 2018 1:30:57 GMT

Post by progrocker on Feb 27, 2018 10:28:02 GMT

Post by senshisun on Feb 27, 2018 20:03:05 GMT

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