Post by masterweedo on Nov 3, 2017 2:44:45 GMT
I know most people hate ICP and Juggalos, but I see someone posted their early JJ Boys cassettes, so here's more I found so far...expect updates.
Psychopathic Records and Violent J in particular have a long history of announcing things early, somethings never see the light of day for one reason or another. I am trying to compile a known list.
"Carnival of Carnage" - The title track to the ICP's first LP was originally recorded by Esham at Hells Doors Studio, but he pronounced "carnage" as "carnicks" and refused to redo it. The final version of the song was recorded by Joseph Bruce over a reversed recording of the original.
Strangle-Mania Alternate Commentary - There is supposedly an early version of their comedic announcing overdub of japanese deathmatch wrestling.
The original version of "Bitches" from The Amazing Jeckel Brothers. - ODB from Wu-Tang Clan agreed to be on a song for their album, so they sent him a song to record a verse for. Ol' Dirty Bastard recorded his track in a matter of two days; however, his recording consisted of nothing more than him rambling about "bitches." It took Bruce and Utsler a week to assemble just four rhymes out of his rambling, using Pro Tools because his raps were out of synch with Clark's beat. The duo eventually had to re-record their lines and re-title the song "Bitches"
Hallowicked 99 - Another one of those plans that just never happened and probably never will. Psychopathic filmed the 1999 Hallowicked concert in Detroit and said they had plans to release it on DVD and VHS but now it's a way later and it hasn't come out so it's safe to say it never will. Probably just some footage Psychopathic is sitting on.
60 Minute Interview CD: "The Real J & Shaggy"- Around the era of the 5th Joker's Card, Violent J posted a big long thing on InsaneClownPosse.com detailing some of the plans they had instore. One of these plans consisted of releasing a CD on tour that would consist of a long ass hour-long interview with J and Shaggy where they would reveal everything, from the secret of the Butterfly to what the 6th Joker's Card would be, and much more. This was never released and it's safe to say that it probably never will be.
Dark Lotus/Godsmack collab - Before the first Dark Lotus album was ever released, back when it was still just ICP and Twiztid in the group, ICP met up with Godsmack and discussed doing a song together for the Dark Lotus album. As usual, Violent J started blabbing about how they were gonna do a song with Godsmack but it was never released. He gets excited sometimes, it happens.
The 2000 Gathering of the Juggalos official footage. - Scrapped documentary advertised in the JCW Vol. 1 DVD insert. Much like the Hallowicked video, Psychopathic said they would release one for the first ever Gathering in Novi, MI. Bits and pieces of the footage can be see on the "Born Twiztid" video as well as the"Bootlegged In Denver" concert DVD that was released with "Hell's Pit" but a full video of the footage was never released and probably won't be.
The Shockumentary 2 - another project advertised in the JCW DVD inserts - At the Gathering 2002 in Peoria, during Friday's seminar, Violent J said that this film was still in the works and that some of it was being filmed right there at the Gathering. When asked about it at the 2004 GOTJ seminar, J stated that it wasn't coming out, but that they were working on something similar...a documentary ABOUT juggalos, but that it would not be called Shockumentary 2. So to this day, neither project has been released.
The Shaggy Show - another project advertised in the JCW DVD inserts - This was filmed in Aug. of 2002 while Violent J and Shaggy were in Los Angeles and the surrounding areas signing autographs and appearing on the Loveline radio show. As they drove around the western United States with Esham in tow, the Shaggy Show video was filmed and was planned to be released. However, at the 2003 Gathering, they revealed that all the footage they ended up with really fuckin' sucked. They took it to a company to try to restore the footage to make it useable, but it still sucked too much to put out. In 2004, Shaggy revealed that he was starting on it again, to be released around Christmas time of 2004, but of course, that still never happened. And once again, at the 2005 Gathering, they said once again that they were planning to do it. Some of the footage was released online, and as a give away for the "Ray Day" promotion that took place on Friday January 12th, 2001.
Vampiro solo album - Former WCW wrestler and rock musician Vampiro was pretty much signed to Psychopathic at one point and was working on an album. At one point, Violent J said that the album was already 75% done. So why was it never released? Well, one night, Vampiro had a match with Mike Awesome. During the match, he took a NASTY powerbomb and got a serious concussion. A few weeks later, he was at a concert with ICP (on the Bizzar Bizaar Tour) and on stage, the noise was so loud his ears started bleeding. With the way his head injury is, Vampiro has said himself that he will probably never be able to perform a live concert which is why he never did the album. He was pretty upset about it because music was something he had always done and had always wanted to release an album and perform, but now he can't. Whether the album was ever 75% done or not remains a mystery, but I doubt it'll ever see the light of day.
Psychopathic Records documentary - Blaze mentioned in his first interview with JuggaloNews.com (RealJuggalos.com at the time) and said it was in the works, but that was all that was ever heard. [Possibly Shockumentary 2]
"Public Service Announcement", - the 20-minute rap by Violent J. It was originally supposed to appear in one of the early Pendulum comic books and kept saying "It will be the CD single for the next issue" but they said that like 5 times and it never was and to this day it just never got released.
What Is Love -2005- Violent J and Esham. Partially released during Esham’s podcast.
JCW Slam TV - Unedited wrestling matches. - Some of the matches on the DVDs were edited, the full matches were never made available.
Let It Go -2008- Partially released during the radio show. The whole song hasn’t been leaked, and also has interruption shoutouts by Violent J.
ICP - Burning Abandoned House - Song released at the 2015 Gathering. It was auctioned off for over $2000 to a single person. Has yet to be released online.
Shaggy 2 Dope - F.T.F.O.M.F. [Young Wicked Edition] - Halfway though production it was revealed that the producer, Young Wicked had impregnated Violent J's niece, leading to his being ousted and the album to be reworked with new producers.
Strange Music's Project Deadman, featuring Prozak and longtime ICP producer Mike E Clark, also have an unreleased album with King Gordy. Apparently King Gordy's label blocked the release. Some of the songs were performed by the trio at the 2006 Gathering of the Juggalos.
I'm going to go through the book Violent J released and see if there is anything else he mentions.
Psychopathic Records and Violent J in particular have a long history of announcing things early, somethings never see the light of day for one reason or another. I am trying to compile a known list.
"Carnival of Carnage" - The title track to the ICP's first LP was originally recorded by Esham at Hells Doors Studio, but he pronounced "carnage" as "carnicks" and refused to redo it. The final version of the song was recorded by Joseph Bruce over a reversed recording of the original.
Strangle-Mania Alternate Commentary - There is supposedly an early version of their comedic announcing overdub of japanese deathmatch wrestling.
The original version of "Bitches" from The Amazing Jeckel Brothers. - ODB from Wu-Tang Clan agreed to be on a song for their album, so they sent him a song to record a verse for. Ol' Dirty Bastard recorded his track in a matter of two days; however, his recording consisted of nothing more than him rambling about "bitches." It took Bruce and Utsler a week to assemble just four rhymes out of his rambling, using Pro Tools because his raps were out of synch with Clark's beat. The duo eventually had to re-record their lines and re-title the song "Bitches"
Hallowicked 99 - Another one of those plans that just never happened and probably never will. Psychopathic filmed the 1999 Hallowicked concert in Detroit and said they had plans to release it on DVD and VHS but now it's a way later and it hasn't come out so it's safe to say it never will. Probably just some footage Psychopathic is sitting on.
60 Minute Interview CD: "The Real J & Shaggy"- Around the era of the 5th Joker's Card, Violent J posted a big long thing on InsaneClownPosse.com detailing some of the plans they had instore. One of these plans consisted of releasing a CD on tour that would consist of a long ass hour-long interview with J and Shaggy where they would reveal everything, from the secret of the Butterfly to what the 6th Joker's Card would be, and much more. This was never released and it's safe to say that it probably never will be.
Dark Lotus/Godsmack collab - Before the first Dark Lotus album was ever released, back when it was still just ICP and Twiztid in the group, ICP met up with Godsmack and discussed doing a song together for the Dark Lotus album. As usual, Violent J started blabbing about how they were gonna do a song with Godsmack but it was never released. He gets excited sometimes, it happens.
The 2000 Gathering of the Juggalos official footage. - Scrapped documentary advertised in the JCW Vol. 1 DVD insert. Much like the Hallowicked video, Psychopathic said they would release one for the first ever Gathering in Novi, MI. Bits and pieces of the footage can be see on the "Born Twiztid" video as well as the"Bootlegged In Denver" concert DVD that was released with "Hell's Pit" but a full video of the footage was never released and probably won't be.
The Shockumentary 2 - another project advertised in the JCW DVD inserts - At the Gathering 2002 in Peoria, during Friday's seminar, Violent J said that this film was still in the works and that some of it was being filmed right there at the Gathering. When asked about it at the 2004 GOTJ seminar, J stated that it wasn't coming out, but that they were working on something similar...a documentary ABOUT juggalos, but that it would not be called Shockumentary 2. So to this day, neither project has been released.
The Shaggy Show - another project advertised in the JCW DVD inserts - This was filmed in Aug. of 2002 while Violent J and Shaggy were in Los Angeles and the surrounding areas signing autographs and appearing on the Loveline radio show. As they drove around the western United States with Esham in tow, the Shaggy Show video was filmed and was planned to be released. However, at the 2003 Gathering, they revealed that all the footage they ended up with really fuckin' sucked. They took it to a company to try to restore the footage to make it useable, but it still sucked too much to put out. In 2004, Shaggy revealed that he was starting on it again, to be released around Christmas time of 2004, but of course, that still never happened. And once again, at the 2005 Gathering, they said once again that they were planning to do it. Some of the footage was released online, and as a give away for the "Ray Day" promotion that took place on Friday January 12th, 2001.
Vampiro solo album - Former WCW wrestler and rock musician Vampiro was pretty much signed to Psychopathic at one point and was working on an album. At one point, Violent J said that the album was already 75% done. So why was it never released? Well, one night, Vampiro had a match with Mike Awesome. During the match, he took a NASTY powerbomb and got a serious concussion. A few weeks later, he was at a concert with ICP (on the Bizzar Bizaar Tour) and on stage, the noise was so loud his ears started bleeding. With the way his head injury is, Vampiro has said himself that he will probably never be able to perform a live concert which is why he never did the album. He was pretty upset about it because music was something he had always done and had always wanted to release an album and perform, but now he can't. Whether the album was ever 75% done or not remains a mystery, but I doubt it'll ever see the light of day.
Psychopathic Records documentary - Blaze mentioned in his first interview with JuggaloNews.com (RealJuggalos.com at the time) and said it was in the works, but that was all that was ever heard. [Possibly Shockumentary 2]
"Public Service Announcement", - the 20-minute rap by Violent J. It was originally supposed to appear in one of the early Pendulum comic books and kept saying "It will be the CD single for the next issue" but they said that like 5 times and it never was and to this day it just never got released.
What Is Love -2005- Violent J and Esham. Partially released during Esham’s podcast.
JCW Slam TV - Unedited wrestling matches. - Some of the matches on the DVDs were edited, the full matches were never made available.
Let It Go -2008- Partially released during the radio show. The whole song hasn’t been leaked, and also has interruption shoutouts by Violent J.
ICP - Burning Abandoned House - Song released at the 2015 Gathering. It was auctioned off for over $2000 to a single person. Has yet to be released online.
Shaggy 2 Dope - F.T.F.O.M.F. [Young Wicked Edition] - Halfway though production it was revealed that the producer, Young Wicked had impregnated Violent J's niece, leading to his being ousted and the album to be reworked with new producers.
Strange Music's Project Deadman, featuring Prozak and longtime ICP producer Mike E Clark, also have an unreleased album with King Gordy. Apparently King Gordy's label blocked the release. Some of the songs were performed by the trio at the 2006 Gathering of the Juggalos.
I'm going to go through the book Violent J released and see if there is anything else he mentions.
